From: "Dag Spicer" <spicer@computerhistory.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:52:16 -0800
Subject: RE: IBM 1620 Group: Re: eBay 1620 & 1130 manuals on CD

Sounds like someone of marginal moral fiber.  He ought to have asked Al
*before* (not when he got busted!) about doing this.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised... eBay often brings out the sleazy
side of people...

Tacky!

d.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Babcock [mailto:dave@kaleidosoft.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Al Kossow; Brian@ibm1139.org.culver.net; IBM1620group@Culver.Net;
Norm@ibm1130.org; yogiw@pacbell.net; brian@ibm1130.org
Subject: IBM 1620 Group: Re: eBay 1620 & 1130 manuals on CD

To all,

Just a postscript to this.

I wrote the seller that I felt what he was doing was wrong - trying to
profit from Al's hard work.

To my surprise he added a comment to all of his items for sale that the
material was from bitsavers.com.

He then wrote me back and said he wasn't trying to make (much) profit
from
this but was trying to make the material available to others who didn't
have
a high-speed internet connection.  He also said that he had some old
computer manuals stored away that he planned to scan into pdf and give
to
bitsavers.com.  [I'll be interested to see if that will ever happen.]

Anyway, I think that he redeemed himself by adding the credit note to
his
eBay auctions.

Thanks,
DaveB

P.S.  For future reference his name is Arnold Kochman
(ajk4@actcom.co.il).



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Babcock" <dave@kaleidosoft.com>
To: "Al Kossow" <aek@spies.com>; <Brian@ibm1139.org.culver.net>;
<daveb@computerhistory.org>; <IBM1620group@Culver.Net>;
<Norm@ibm1130.org>
Cc: <yogiw@pacbell.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: IBM 1620 Group: Re: eBay 1620 & 1130 manuals on CD


> To all,
>
> Never mind, it's not worth buying.
>
> Indeed, he's selling a part of Al's scanned documents on
bitsavers.com.
> [There should be a law preventing people from making a profit on Al's
hard
> work.]
>
> Sorry for the false alarm.
>
> Thanks,
> DaveB
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arnold Jacob Kochman" <ajk4@actcom.co.il>
> To: <dave@kaleidosoft.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 9:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2773084973
>
>
> > dave@kaleidosoft.com wrote:
> >
> > >Dear Seller,
> > >
> > >Please email me a list (just IBM part numbers would be ok) of
what's
> included on the CD.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >DaveB
> > >
> > >--------------------
> >
> > My customers make me work.  Happy to do it though. I guess I should
have
> > put this in the listing, but I was being lazy.
> >
> > Arnold
> > ajk4ajk
> >
> > 1130:
> > 1130_CoreImageLoader-Card.pdf    C26-3715-3_1130_FORTRANIV.pdf
> > 520-1106_1130pocketSummary.pdf   C26-5927-4_1130asmUpdJun68.pdf
> > A26-1575-1_1130biSyncAdapt.pdf   C26-5927-4_1130Assembler.pdf
> > A26-1579-0_1130channel.pdf       C26-5929-2_1130subLibUpd_66.pdf
> > A26-5606-0_1130oemChannel.pdf    C26-5929-2_1130subrtns_66.pdf
> > A26-5881-3_1130funcChar.pdf      GA26-3531-0_1130typesetting.pdf
> > A26-5916-10_1130bibliograpy.pdf  GA26-5915-1_1130Config.pdf
> > A26-5916-5_1130bibliography.pdf  H20-0221-2_1130comSbrPgk_67.pdf
> > A26-5917-5_1130sysSummary.pdf    H20-0225-0_1130sspDescr_66.pdf
> > A27-2723-0_2250displayUnit.pdf   IntroductoryGuideToThe1130.pdf
> > C20-1630-1_1130pgmCat_Dec66.pdf  X26-3566-3_1130refCard1967.pdf
> > C20-1641-1_1130ftnCoreReq.pdf    X26-3566-4_1130refCard1968.pdf
> > C26-3706-2_syncSubrtns.pdf       X26-5624-1_1800refCard1967.pdf
> > C26-3709-0_1130diskMonV2_67.pdf  Y21-0010-0_1130rpgPLM.pdf
> > C26-3709-0_monitorV2intro.pdf    Y26-3714-2_1130monPLM_Feb69.pdf
> > C26-3709-4_1130discMonIntro.pdf
> >
> > 1620:
> > A26-4500-2_1620ref_Jul61.pdf  C26-5619-1_fortran.pdf
> > A26-5706-3_1620model1cpu.pdf  C26-5739-4_monitorIrefMan.pdf
> > A26-5781-2_1620mod2.pdf

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